Podcast: How a Coach Approach Saved my Ministry

Episode #173


Brian interviews Rev Debbie Foster, who is a pastor to pastors, and takes a coach approach to EVERYTHING in her ministry.

She makes this bold statement early in the podcast: “I wouldn’t still be in ministry today if it weren’t for the coach approach to my work.”

Here are a few bullet points to the interview:

  • Centering in Trust – establishing intimacy – safe space
  • Transition from technical work to adaptive work – more questions, less answers, physically move out of the spaces we are in. Metaphors, painting pictures, allow failure to inform
  • Holding up the mirror – saying what I hear – asking tough questions
  • Making space for the Holy Spirit

Podcast: Maybe Capacity

Episode #172


Brian was reading Tim Hicks’ book, Embodied Conflict, and came across the term “Maybe Capacity”. Hicks writes:

We can create a type of understanding that allows for the coexistence of mutually contradictory accounts, what might be called a “maybe capacity,” a looser attachment to hypothesis formation that allows us to be receptive to, and to convey our openness to, each party without fully subscribing to their account or to our own internal responses to their account.

That is kind of a mouthful. Brian and Chad break the “Maybe Capacity” down to a level that every coach can use.

Here are some highlights:

  • Get comfortable with not knowing
  • Ask questions that are wide open at the beginning
  • Create a “frame” for the client to design actions
  • Let the Client assign the meaning and action to the issue (and yet keep them in a maybe capacity)