Brian interviews Rev Debbie Foster, who is a pastor to pastors, and takes a coach approach to EVERYTHING in her ministry.

She makes this bold statement early in the podcast: “I wouldn’t still be in ministry today if it weren’t for the coach approach to my work.”

Here are a few bullet points to the interview:

• Centering in Trust – establishing intimacy – safe space
• Transition from technical work to adaptive work – more questions, less answers, physically move out of the spaces we are in. Metaphors, painting pictures, allow failure to inform
• Holding up the mirror – saying what I hear – asking tough questions
• Making space for the Holy Spirit